Additional Thoughts on Ladies Olympic Competition
Once again, the scoreboard doesn't do justice to how good of a competition this was. It was not a close competition. Yu-Na Kim stood atop alone and she deserved to be there. But there were so many notable moments that meant more than the color of a medal.
Queen Yu-Na
Let's start with our new gold medalist, Yu-Na Kim. I watched her skate again and it just got better. She did exactly what she had to do - she was perfect on the day she had to be. And she didn't have to be perfect to win, but she had to be perfect because this was her Olympic moment. I don't know how she skates the way she does - it seems like she makes up the programs as she goes along because everything just looks so natural and just fits her so perfectly. You just have to watch to understand. I also am so happy that this was the best I have ever seen her skate. And I love that she did it with technical and artistic brilliance. I think it's hard to appreciate how fast she is and how high her jumps are from home. I hope I'll get to see her in person at some point!
Kim is also under so much pressure and such a super-celebrity that this was one of those situations where anything short of gold is a failure (see Asada, Mao). I think that's truly unfortunate (although I think America obviously pays more attention to gold, too), but I'm happy she was able to deliver. I wonder whether Kim will choose to continue on under the pressure, or just skate in shows or something. I would love to see her continue competing.
And how exciting to see Kim actually let loose with the emotions? She's usually happy to see her high scores, but I loved seeing all the weight lifted off her shoulders and the emotion truly come through.
Not too fast...
But before I pronounce her the queen of the world, I will say that on the aftershow NBC did point out that she can improve her spirals (so it's not just me!). They were gushing about her overall excellence as they said it (they were...a bit over the top last night, no?). And apparently Brian Orser is on the case. Speaking of Brian Orser...
Brian Orser works magic
Many are pointing out how it took Orser only a few years to do what it took Frank Carroll so many to do. But I think Orser had a special case with Kim, she is one for the ages. It was so nice to see him help Kim get a gold medal, after he earned two silvers himself at the Olympics. And if you take a look at some of his other pupils, like Adam Rippon and Christina Gao, you can tell there's more success to come. Also, he is a very fun coach to watch on the sidelines. It's hard not to be happy for him.
Mao Asada
Mao Asada had to skate right after Yu-Na Kim, and I am assuming that she couldn't ignore that huge score from Kim. She did lose focus for a moment. But, before that, she landed TWO TRIPLE AXELS. That is amazing. Even if you add up the points that Asada left on the table with her botched loop and step between her combination, she would not have won this competition (although it would have been at least ten points closer, I assume). I think that Asada is underrated as an all-around skater - her artistry and passion came out last night. She's artistic, she's got great extension and spins, and footwork. She is just an amazing skater. Oh, and have I mentioned she has the triple axel? She should get all the credit in the world for doing that, but I think people should remember that she is more than just a one-trick pony. She is a full package. I hate that she was sad on the podium and that this result may be viewed as a failure. She is under almost as much (if not just as much) pressure in Japan as Yu-Na Kim. What she did here was historic. And if they hadn't made an age rule, she may very well have won the Olympics four years ago (ah, what might have been...).
Rachael Flatt
Flatt was not cut any breaks last night, and I was surprised. I don't think most expected that she would be the American skater getting downgrades rather than Nagasu. It really was an impressive skate, and I thought she was great overall; I couldn't believe how easy it seemed for her to land all of those jumps! She didn't garner a whole lot of grade of execution points, either. There are definitely things for Flatt to work on before she can truly be in the conversation with skaters like Kim, Asada, and Rochette. Hopefully she comes back even more determined, since she seemed a bit disappointed with her score here. Worlds will likely be more successful, though. Medals or not, America had two very impressive skates last night.
Judging, and Rochette vs. Nagasu
I actually thought that (despite the judges being rough on the downgrades for Flatt) the judging was better for this competition than for some of the others. I understood (most of) the scores I saw. I know some people (I'm assuming people who are not used to this scoring system) were pulling for Nagasu to get bronze because her free skate was cleaner but I thought Rochette deserved the bronze, although I think the discrepancy between Nagasu on program components was a few points too much.
First of all, lets remember that Rochette came in with more than seven points up on Nagasu. That would have been a lot of ground to cover unless Rochette had a fall, which she did not. But Rochette had a bad landing on a triple flip, had a short flow out of a double axel, and maybe some lower grades of execution on other jumps. Presentation-wise, I don't feel that Nagasu touched Rochette last night, despite being so adorable.
So, anyway, looking at the free program scores: Rochette had negative grades of execution on three jumps and a low grade on a combination - does not look like they took it too easy on her there. She didn't receive particularly high grades of execution on her other elements either, and ended with a 62.80 on the technical side. Nagasu received much higher grades of execution for her elements and had a 65.83 for her technical side, despite the fact that Rochette's base value (combination of the base scores of all her elements) was actually one point more than Nagasu's was, meaning her program was more difficult. So those scores I think are fine.
Presentation was where Rochette won in the scores - as I mentioned, I really think Rochette surpassed Nagasu in this area last night. She used the music better throughout and obviously felt it, while Nagasu, through the first half of the program, threw in a few smiles here and there. And I think Rochette's program was better choreographed and more intricate on the whole. I am surprised there was an eight point gap in the program components scores - but I would have expected, like...a five point gap. So, if Rochette did indeed receive the "Canadian bonus" on components, I don't think it made too much of a difference in the final standings. Even if the presentation scores had been equal (giving Nagasu the higher free skate score), Rochette would have beaten Nagasu overall in the competition due to her lead from the short program. Rochette gave the bronze medal performance here. But I watch skating and know the scoring system, so perhaps it makes more sense to me. The scores were also not particularly surprising; the international judges haven't been that generous to Nagasu this season in the past, so they obviously see room for improvement on components.
Mirai Nagasu (pictured above)
No skater has won me over like Nagasu. I was not particularly impressed with her when she won the U.S. Nationals as a 14-year-old, despite her obvious talents and personality. I wasn't that interested in her last season, until she had a valiant free skate at Nationals to end her season of growth spurts and injuries on a positive note and prove that she is truly a fighter. As this year started, I didn't expect too much. But something happened at Nationals (well, it actually started happening during her Grand Prix short programs...). I think I saw in her Nationals free skate shades of what she can truly be in the future. She did not have as much of that spark last night that she had at Nationals, but she did have clean jumps and her personality shined through. Her youth definitely showed a bit in her movement on the ice, but I expect more and more improvement for the future. I'm excited to watch her. She has speed, jumps (fingers crossed for the triple/triple) elegance, beautiful lines and positions, and the personality to match. Her joy at being in fourth place last night was so heartwarming. I just love how comfortable she was with her skate and how happy she was.
Joannie Rochette
The combined performances of Joannie Rochette here were not only very good (the short was amazing, the free skate had some errors but so much fight!), but inspirational. I was so happy to see her get that bronze medal after what she's gone through this week with her mother's death. I thought the medal was so deserved and so emotional. And she has just been so gracious to give interviews and talk about her mother in them...this is a bronze medal performance I won't soon forget. Also, it's the cleanest bronze medal performance we've seen in a few Olympics.
The Forgotten Woman
Poor Miki Ando. She skated clean here but had a truly forgettable performance. She just never cultivated the artistic side of skating the way others have, or just doesn't feel the music. It's sad that her placement was disappointing after a truly good couple of skates, but skating isn't only about clean jumps.
NBC Fail
NBC should have shown the last two groups of ladies. Or, since they were putting people on tape delay, show Kiira Korpi, who apparently had the skate of her life, or Ksenia Makarova, who is going to be one to watch in the future. Or Laura Lepisto, who finished in the top six. Additionally, the gushing last night was over the top, and it just seemed lazy how much they emphasized Flatt's studies over and over. I mean, I don't understand why they would keep talking about it. Still, it was an emotional night, and I guess if you're going to be over the top, the ladies free skate is the time to do it.
That's All
I'm so sad that the Olympics are over. I'll continue having Olympic-related posts, including all the breaking news andanalysis and of course, a fashion post! Please remember to come back to the site for daily skating news and the don't forget that the world championships start on March 22 in Torino!
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was it just my poor ears, or did the nbc commentators say that this was frank carroll’s last olympics?!
and i thought that was REALLY harsh about those comments of orser vs carroll – yeon-a is an EXCEPTIONAL, once in a lifetime skater. carroll is a great coach, and has coached some truly great skaters. I feel like to compare just by gold medal alone is unfair. It takes more than great coaching sometimes – you just either have that raw talent in you, or you don’t.
as far as mirai vs joannie, it’s true – mirai is just “not there yet.” i LOVE her spunkiness, but it doesn’t compare to soft, subtle emotion. that requires a maturity you can acquire only through age. but i am so excited to watch her as she grows up!
and i am SO EXCITED for the worlds! woohoo!!!!
Judges Got it Right...Mostly
I was incredibly happy with the skating last night. I agree that Kim Yu-Na was far superior to everyone and should have had the huge lead she did…well, maybe not quite as huge of a lead. I think the fact that Mao’s component scores were lower than Joannie’s was certainly questionable. Then again, what really matters is that everyone got the medal they were supposed to.
Mirai was fantastic! and she should have been a little higher on the component scores, but not high enough to medal. You are right on with that! One of the reasons I think they talk about Rachel’s studies so much is that she doesn’t have the artistry. Maybe it’s some kind of, “she’s smart so she approaches skating more scientifically,” kind of thing? Or the simple fact that she isn’t as precious as Mirai so she has to fall back on her smarts.
Either way, epic skating all around and worlds will be great!
by Natalie Daniels on Feb 26, 2010 10:45 AM EST reply actions
You might be right about Flatt
Maybe it’s because she doesn’t give good quotes like Nagasu or because they can’t say that she is an artist or whatever. I have a feeling it’s what Flatt’s publicity people push out there but I don’t know why they are so hard core about it!
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Laura
RequiredElements.com
I'll try to do a full post when it's all confirmed
But it sounds like both Kim and Asada will be at worlds…
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RequiredElements.com
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Finally a blog that is not an emotional, name calling mess! It’s great to have someone informed to comment on the compeition which I thought was stellar and actually compare the skaters performances. I’m excited to see the young talent that the US has and look forward to seeing Mirai and Rachel mature into more artistic skaters. Mao is incredible, always has been and I really hope that she is proud of her silver medal. Joanne was incredible, the most courageous skater I’ve ever seen, she certainly deserved the bronze for her two performances.
Thank you!
This site is a breath of fresh air. I wrote about the scores in an earlier blog and I’m so glad you expounded on it here.
It’s just so hurtful to Joannie who so bravely faced the world, literally, without the most important person in her life and skated, over two skates, to bronze. Well deserved. I’ll just come here and enjoy the balm of common sense and intelligent analysis.
Thank you!
Ando-san. :(
You know I would have really loved it if Miki Ando went out there and spoiled the Asada, Kim, Rochette, Americans media party hype. Kinda like how I would have loved it if Daisuke Takahashi won gold just so the American and Russian media would cry for hyping up Evan and Plushy. I mean, Shizuka Arakawa did that in the 2006 Games. Sure, World Champion and what not but really. The media overlooked her and focused on Sasha, Slutes, and the two American teens. Sure she was top three with Sasha and the lead but still. Then Shizza just blasted through all four of them and stood atop of the podium. I wished Daisuke did that! I wished Miki Ando did that! Damn American media would be swimming in shock if all those things happened.
I kinda had the feeling that Miki Ando was more of an underdog than either Rachael or Mirai… according to the American media. ;) You got Queen Yu-na, Triple Axel Asada, sweet grieving Joannie, and feisty Americans. Where does Miki Ando fit in with all five of them? Aside from becoming the first to do a quad jump? Sure, 2007 World Champion then rebounded in 2009 and had a stellar run in the GP series. But do the every-four-year skating fan care about those things? No. They’ll pay attention to the Queen, Axel Asada, sweet Joannie, and the Americans. The die hard skating fan would.
One thing, though. I would love it if Miki stepped up on that artistry. I’ve been a fan of her since 2006 and will still be forever. Just step up on that artistry and she can shatter those feisty Americans. ;)
Forgotten Skaters
I would have jumped out of my skin if Daisuke had won the gold. In all honesty its what I was hoping for. I hates how the media tried to call it a two man race when he was .05 behind Evan after the short. Travesty!
by Natalie Daniels on Feb 26, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Blame it on the nordic :-)
I think skating’s nemesis last night was an unusual one: Nordic Combined. Unusual because USA went 1-2 in the medals I think, which is unprecedented… they HAD to make time for it, and I think the ladies took the hit for that.
Ironic, but we might’ve stood a better chance of more skaters seen if we DIDN’T have two US skaters in the final flight… ya know?
In any case, I think NBC should have made room to show Lepisto somehow… if someone’s going to come out of nowhere to allegedly skate better than a seemingly spot-on Flatt, that’s something we needed to see. All I can think is that by the time they realized what had happened, they were out of time and had to go to the final flight live :-(
by StateoftheSkate-r on Feb 26, 2010 9:15 PM EST reply actions
Re: they were...a bit over the top last night, no? NO
(they were…a bit over the top last night, no?) … I don’t think so. Have you watched other countries broadcasting Yuna’s performances on Youtube ??
The Eurosports (British), French, Russian NTV, Germans etc, all are going crazy-gaga over Yuna (some diligent Koreans translated the other country broadcasts and posted on Youtube). And this was even before the Olympics, starting first with her 2007 Tango SP. The Americans are actually quite timid and conservative compared to oversea commentators. The truth is, Yuna is the best thing that happened to figure skating since I can remember.
Her performance is revolutionary. You cannot find such classy, glamourous and artsy performance in any discipline. She has charisma and magnetism that no one can resist…

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